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		<title>By: :Ben Metcalfe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some issues the blogosphere needs to address</title>
		<link>http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2005/08/90-of-the-time-we-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1540</link>
		<dc:creator>:Ben Metcalfe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some issues the blogosphere needs to address</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (To my defence I do criticise the BBC as well as praise it, but this issue is far bigger than just my blog) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (To my defence I do criticise the BBC as well as praise it, but this issue is far bigger than just my blog) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan100</title>
		<link>http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2005/08/90-of-the-time-we-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering... who accused Wikinews of  “blatant plagiarism”


(Ben replies: &quot;That would be telling!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering&#8230; who accused Wikinews of  “blatant plagiarism”</p>
<p>(Ben replies: &#8220;That would be telling!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2005/08/90-of-the-time-we-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments on old media attitudes and new media seem quite pertinent in light of a recent interview between Mark Lawson and Tim Berners-Lee on the BBC website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4132752.stm

I can imagine that Mark Lawson doesn&#039;t use the internet very often, or doesn&#039;t think much of it - that&#039;s certainly reflected in his choice of questions, some of which are quite ridiculous (I&#039;m all for critical, but informed questioning, but this certainly isn&#039;t it!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments on old media attitudes and new media seem quite pertinent in light of a recent interview between Mark Lawson and Tim Berners-Lee on the BBC website:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4132752.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4132752.stm</a></p>
<p>I can imagine that Mark Lawson doesn&#8217;t use the internet very often, or doesn&#8217;t think much of it &#8211; that&#8217;s certainly reflected in his choice of questions, some of which are quite ridiculous (I&#8217;m all for critical, but informed questioning, but this certainly isn&#8217;t it!).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, as the person who I think you are referring to at the end of this fascinating and thought-provoking entry, I have to say that you have my total sympathies.  I can imagine how frustrating a day like that was.  

However you need to know that the BBC overall is in a pretty good place.  It is slowly but definitely incorporating new media into its fabric, partly as a result of this apparently endless battering-down-of-prejudices which people like you have to keep participating in.  The appetite, if not the understanding, is there and growing.  

Stay with it:  it&#039;s all about turning round a supertanker;  but turning round it is.

Personally, I think that the user content sent in to interactive news operations on 7th July was a real turning point.  Suddenly, even for the most die-hard old media types, having a good online operation was to be embraced and celebrated, rather than treated with reluctant tolerance, a bit like an aunt at Christmas.

And a personal addendum:  you&#039;re right about me wanting to get more &#039;old media&#039; experience in order to position myself at the future junctions of old and new media.  But it&#039;s not quite for the reasons you say.

A little more depressingly, it&#039;s partly because it still seems that, if you want to move on, old media is more respected than new in organisations such as the BBC.  What&#039;s more likely to get someone like me promotion in years to come?  Being Deputy Editor of the Six O&#039;Clock News or UK Editor of the BBC News website?  (Both hypothetical situations, of course, but you get the point.)

My children would probably respect me more for the latter;  but my current bosses?

All of which is completely ironic, because the depth, variety and flexibility of covering and getting news via the internet is so much more satisfying and consumer-centric than TV news.  But TV news it is for me now.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, as the person who I think you are referring to at the end of this fascinating and thought-provoking entry, I have to say that you have my total sympathies.  I can imagine how frustrating a day like that was.  </p>
<p>However you need to know that the BBC overall is in a pretty good place.  It is slowly but definitely incorporating new media into its fabric, partly as a result of this apparently endless battering-down-of-prejudices which people like you have to keep participating in.  The appetite, if not the understanding, is there and growing.  </p>
<p>Stay with it:  it&#8217;s all about turning round a supertanker;  but turning round it is.</p>
<p>Personally, I think that the user content sent in to interactive news operations on 7th July was a real turning point.  Suddenly, even for the most die-hard old media types, having a good online operation was to be embraced and celebrated, rather than treated with reluctant tolerance, a bit like an aunt at Christmas.</p>
<p>And a personal addendum:  you&#8217;re right about me wanting to get more &#8216;old media&#8217; experience in order to position myself at the future junctions of old and new media.  But it&#8217;s not quite for the reasons you say.</p>
<p>A little more depressingly, it&#8217;s partly because it still seems that, if you want to move on, old media is more respected than new in organisations such as the BBC.  What&#8217;s more likely to get someone like me promotion in years to come?  Being Deputy Editor of the Six O&#8217;Clock News or UK Editor of the BBC News website?  (Both hypothetical situations, of course, but you get the point.)</p>
<p>My children would probably respect me more for the latter;  but my current bosses?</p>
<p>All of which is completely ironic, because the depth, variety and flexibility of covering and getting news via the internet is so much more satisfying and consumer-centric than TV news.  But TV news it is for me now&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben 

I used to be the original Marketing Director in Europe for Netscape. Imagine how it was for me trying to explain what a broswer was.  Imagine having to try and explain the internet. 

In my career I have faced many similar brick walls but like the Berlin Wall they all fall down eventually. It takes longer than we want or expect.  But on a positive note the BBC is making great stirdes with RSS, Podcasts etc. 

I have also just heard your beta pod and would like to speak with you shortly about my new project iRiSS.fm but that&#039;s under another NDA ;-)

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben </p>
<p>I used to be the original Marketing Director in Europe for Netscape. Imagine how it was for me trying to explain what a broswer was.  Imagine having to try and explain the internet. </p>
<p>In my career I have faced many similar brick walls but like the Berlin Wall they all fall down eventually. It takes longer than we want or expect.  But on a positive note the BBC is making great stirdes with RSS, Podcasts etc. </p>
<p>I have also just heard your beta pod and would like to speak with you shortly about my new project iRiSS.fm but that&#8217;s under another NDA <img src='http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Suw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 08:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have my sympathies, Ben. I&#039;ve suffered similarly at the hands of people who ought to get it but don&#039;t, although in my case, it was a sort of cultural clash of values - they got what the technology could do, but not how it should do it. Nothing more frustrating than trying to explain to someone why their marketing faux blog is so crap, when all they can see is &#039;but it&#039;s a blog! blogs are cool! we have a blog! So we must be cool!&#039;. Gah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have my sympathies, Ben. I&#8217;ve suffered similarly at the hands of people who ought to get it but don&#8217;t, although in my case, it was a sort of cultural clash of values &#8211; they got what the technology could do, but not how it should do it. Nothing more frustrating than trying to explain to someone why their marketing faux blog is so crap, when all they can see is &#8216;but it&#8217;s a blog! blogs are cool! we have a blog! So we must be cool!&#8217;. Gah.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Forrester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Forrester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happened to your trackbacks? Anyhow, here&#039;s my ping - http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/2005/08/02/The_up_hill_battle_of_embracing_new_media.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what happened to your trackbacks? Anyhow, here&#8217;s my ping &#8211; <a href="http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/2005/08/02/The_up_hill_battle_of_embracing_new_media.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/2005/08/02/The_up_hill_battle_of_embracing_new_media.html</a></p>
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